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LPVOs are Bad Now

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noooo haha don’t sell your LPVO to me for pennies on the dollar, it’s such a good recce optic!

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  1. The gun industry is getting as bad as a bunch of women bitching at a hair salon. Not a damn thing with a 1-6, 75% of you cant shoot worth a shit you just follow "whats cool", all of you forget one rule KISS!

  2. I want an optic that has dead accurate and consistent shot placement from 100-400 yards. I want my optics to be ok or usable at 100 yards and in, and ok at 400 yards and out. Is an LPVO good for my needs or not?

  3. I really think that firearm trends happen like this:
    1: someone researches a question in hopes to find a clear answer
    2: too much information overwhelms said individual and they default to what an expert or confident figure says/uses- even if it may be experimental or not fit their practical use case
    3: That someone discovers, after hundreds or thousands of doll hairs spent, that they actually wanted something else that costs another equally damaging amount of money or dishearteningly less than what they originally got after a catharsis of what they actually need for their unique circumstances.
    4: They recognize that they are speaking in hypotheticals to defer blame for trends on individuals that definitely aren’t me and you, because it’s definitely not me and you.

  4. No one tosses an optic on their weapon and never looks through it/shoots it and says "this is fine, I'm good". Cause the first thing you gotta do in order to say ur setup is ready is zero that optic and run it through some drills. Most people figure out of something is good for them or not when doing that. And no one just jumps on trends when influencers drop them in the gun world. We weigh the pros and cons based on the review and make our own informed decision.

  5. "Counting Coup"; pronounced "coo". Circa 1875-1880. Among the Plains Indians of North America, counting coup is the warrior tradition of winning prestige against an enemy in battle. It's about touching your enemy with a stick and surviving.

  6. Great vid guys! Like discussions of most topics these days, many people lack perspective. Added to that is the fact that most millennials are addicted to approval, even from people they don't know, so they become copy zombies. Then they will get bent out of shape when others don't agree with them – pretty dumb(and self-centered) way to approach life. You guys nailed it! I have some red dots and some LPVOs because they work for me out on the ranch – and few things work better when 4 legged varmints come at night than a good LPVO with my 800 lumen headlight strapped to my noggin. 13 years of raccoons, skunks bocats and coyotes (which eat my house cats!) have shown that LPVOs are prefect for my needs. Sometimes I need instant ID – "Is that a raccoon or my neighbors barn cat?" I know… it's not urban combat with bad guys (my head light would get me shot), but we all have different needs. Keep up the good work!

  7. I have 4 LPVO set ups, 3 red dot set ups, and an Eotech EXPS3. I run NODS. My favorite set up and my main rifle has a Primary Arms PLx-C. Its the best optic I have ever used. Get the griffin. Its Awesome. And yes, run it on a 1.93 or 2.05 mount, I like the Unity.

  8. A bit esoteric guys. But I guess you gotta create content…Seems a bit uninformed (or lazy?) to group all LPVO's into one generic lump. Personally I have a Corvis moded AUG with a Swarovski Z8i on it and the setup works great! The eye box on the Z8i is as good as it gets, it has a parallax adjustment, and you can change your reticle from a simple red dot to a circle dot (I like simple dots as they don't have the same tendency to, "bloom," in the scope glass). It may not be the best scope for long distance stuff, but it certainly can cover anything from 6ft to 600 yds. I run an APC 300 for a truck/hd rig with a Romeo 8T and Aimpoint 3x magnifier. I'd swap that out for the Z8i in a heartbeat.

  9. The cop who smoked the shooter in Kentucky rounded the corner in the school with his LPVO and ended that pronouns life very quickly. Also saw a cop pull up in a hostage situation where the prep was holding his baby and a gun. Cop pulled up, dialed to max power and ended that situation in a matter of seconds with a head shot. I love how quick a red dot is but the LPVO makes it a little more personal as the distances grow . You can decide exactly what part of the target you want to soften up first. It comes in handy when targets are partially obscured or wearing body armor.

  10. Ummm…WTF is “we” and where did this declaration of LVPO’s being dogshit come from?? For civilians, in normal times with functional government, there is no need for anything more than a red dot for a self-defense rifle, in fact nothing better assuming no astigmatism. That said, for other than normal times, an LVPO offers far more capability with little downside other than cost and weight, maybe include battery life.

  11. Ef social media. Red dots to 100yds, scopes to 700yds and beyond- load both on yer AR because … LPVOs really do suck at both short and longer range.

  12. Most people don’t train or use their shit but buy whatever is in the popular crowd or some agency is using. People just need to get out and take some classes from reputable instructors, stfu, use their shit and stop interneting

  13. That’s because people are fucking stupid and the internet is fucking stupid. Lvpo’s have been used way before shit got hyped on the internet. People just need to get out and train and figure shit out for themselves. The internet is fucking stupid

  14. "Nobody puts LPVOs on SBR's……..what? 😆 I'm all for the argument that they aren't true 1x and how LPVOs may not be the perfect optic but I do not think it is useless and I definitely don't think it's useless on an SBR. You can still ring steel out of a 11.5 at meters and with an LPVO you can ID your target at a distance. By ID your target I mean count the hairs on his upper lip from 300 yards.

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