The ATF Has Redefined What A "pistol" Is: Are You Committing A Felony Now?

Spreading herpes and chlamydia should be against the law yea dirty fucking pimp's

Is there a history book, or encyclopedia of this agency, and of the related laws since the beginning of the agency? Can the agency make any laws, or is it the legislature that is the one who is supposed to make the laws? Is there a line of who exactly makes laws regarding self defense tools between a legislative body, and an agency? Are there any studies being done on the amount of laws, or restrictions made, and in how much this costs per year? Is there any research being done on the history of the various laws, and on what were the effects good or bad from the laws? Who specifically is overseeing this agency with audits, or proper checks regarding the constitution?

Arbitrary interpretation by the ATF of laws is arbitrary.

Good. If you want an SBR then get the damn stamp.

in the uk its 24 inches overall length !

Thanks for the video and specifications so I didn't become a felon over night. I said it in the last presidential election to all my friends Donald Trump never supported the second amendment until he ran for president now here we are stuck between a tyrant against the second amendment and the ones that want to abolish it completely.Well played. Ted Cruz and Rand Paul would of never stood for this bullshit of letting the Atf make their own rules without Congress. we are all doomed to the 2016 now 2020 election all over again dammed if you do dammed if you don't

It is still sold as a pistol. How you take it and fire it is irrelevant.

What about the angle grip.

Just don't even care what tho cock suckers say anymore . pretty soon All they'll want us to have is bolt guns and muskets . I say build build build. And learn to reload

An American going about their daily business unwittingly commits an average of three federal felonies a day.

I know what you explained at around 4:40 about the intent to fire with two hands. However, the code clearly states an AOW can not have a rifled bore. Stop quoting the ATF they are not the proper party to write for a decision. That entire argument is stupid. They train every single one of their agents to shoot pistols with two hands. That is not a deciding factor.

On a side note the only pistol I could think right off hand I would want a vertical forward grip on would be a sp5k type. If you have legal questions as a citizen write your AUSA's office. If you want guidance you can call the ATF.

So, what happens if I attach a vertical stabilizing brace to the front rail?

Again, stop writing letters to the ATF unless you are a manufacturer since the ATF is not the proper venue to get a legal opinion. Only the AUSA's office should do that.

Cause all these dumb cock shoveling atf cucks keep posting shit on everyone's comments on ig.

This is one of those rare rulings that actually makes sense. I don't agree with it, but I get it.

Like the famous Selena once said “Bidi bidi bom bom!”

Fucking government

I stopped using public transportation because most types of them have some type of vertical grip on board. LOL!!

ATF GO TO HELL

Did the ATF just convert ACR's and SCAR's into pistols? My ACR is 25.8 inches

Thanks for the info. What I have read before had been confusing on where the measurement should be.

I measure my AR pistols like guys measure their penises, with a lot of extra length! LoL

It would be a lot simpler to just make sbr's legal.

Its all about the money. That's why they do it.

As far as I know it was never legal to put vertical grips on pistols. This shit isn't new. They just trying to find new ways to make money for themselves. Build your pistol as an Aow.

Thanks for the info👍

they didnt redefine anything. its always been end of barrel threads to end of buffer tube (on an AR). if that distance is less than 26" you cant install a vertical grip. if you have a folding adapter like the law tactical folder, you measure to the end of the folding adapter with the adapter folded.

basically there is no legal way to put a vertical grip on an AR with anything shorter than an 11.5" barrel without filing for an AOW. if your barrel is longer than 11.5" you should be good to go

I'm a little confused because I thought it was ALWAYS illegal to add a forward grip to a pistol. So I'm not sure what's changed. Sorry.

So if you use a longer receiver extension tube, like A2 or similar, but then use a spacer inside to use a standard carbine length buffer system, is that spacer considered "superfluous"?

Question, if an AR pistol with a 12.5 inch barrel is over 26 inches is it still considered a pistol as long as it doesn't have a vertical fore grip?

Just wondering if a Strikes Industry Hans stop would be okay to use? Thanks for any information you can provide!

Sometimes I feel like I wasted a lot of time and money on SBRs…. other times I feel like I avoided a lot of headache.

Everything is so wonky…

So just don't put foregrips on pistols? That was Already the law. Unless there's something about the length here i'm missing

Just remember voting time is coming and who is in charge. The master deceiver!

So since the definition for inclusion in overall length is whether the part is integral to the weapons function, that would mean the Law Tactical AR folder could be included in the measurement in its extended position. The AR wont function with the Law Tactical folder collapsed (or folded), so this letter should change anything for those with that product on their weapon. But then again, its the ATF.

What does this do for the LAW folder?

Taxation is theft

When could you ever put a foregrip on a pistol? 🤷🏼‍♂️

I’m staying away from these. I’m just getting Rifles from here on out.

It’s simple don’t comply. When Americans start caring more about their rights than their record things might get better

So much for the “bill of rights” there is no America or freedom anymore it’s just communism. And nothing has changed for the better under Chump. Our rights have been turned into privileges and all the patriotic dumbasses y’all about how free we are.

Good Info.

If one of the current Dem candidates gets elected in 2020, Pistols will be illegal with a stroke of a executive order pen. Vote wisely.

What about an angled foregrip are they still cool to have?

Jesus Christ it’s time to abolish the ATF. Sick and tired of everything getting regulated to the point you can’t have anything. I see there being no reason for this to even be brought into fruition, putting a fore grip isn’t going to make it anymore deadlier than it already is it’s just another way for the government to seize your stuff and fine you.

So does this clarification now make it illegal to use two hands when shooting say a glock 19?