Scott from www.TheRifleScopeStore.com explains the features of the brand new Nikon M-223 rifle scopes and takes a few shots down range at the invitation only Nikon M-223 Challenge in Pennsylvania.
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That last segment shooting the bdc . You was hitting that target pretty good. Which scope has an advantage?
Oh yeah! Nikon, baby! What I especially like about Nikon is their complete LACK of customer support. Example: I bought a new one of their M223 1.5-6x24mm BDC 600 IL scopes a year ago ($800+ !!!), and it arrived here without a manual or anything else in the way of product guidance, and I "challenge" you to find a manual for it out there anywhere! Because it ain't happenin'! Neither one of their illuminated or non-illuminated models of 1.5-6x24mm M-223's even appear as products on either of their two official websites (i.e., nikonusa.com or nikonsportoptics.com)! Its freaking ridiculous!! And multiple e-mails to Nikon Customer Support, requesting a manual (or even a link to a manual!), went un-answered. What's more, you won't find a SINGLE video here on YouTube of either one of those two high-dollar rifle scope. Talk about "amateurish"! Needless to say, that "fine little Nikon product" went back for a refund including shipping, lickety-split, and I wouldn't bother buying another Nikon product, ever!
Now, that said, would you like me to tell you how I REALLY feel? Haaaaa!
nice Christmas present 👍👍👍
excuses
Hi Kyle,
The 62 grain will hit a little low. To find out the exact holdover points for the BDC reticle you can google 'nikon spot on' and click the first result. That's Nikons ballistic calculator and you can select the scope and bullet weight and it will show you the exact yardage of the BDC holdover circle for the 62 gr round.
according to the nikon web page these scopes are set up to be paired with the 55 grain 5.56 round but how much a difference will it make if any to use a larger grain bullet. the 62 are often easier for me to find
LOL yep!
Who seen the 'varmint' at 1:16?
I have used the M223 with a 16 inch AR and it was scary accurate provided you use the 55 grain polymer tip ammo. For different ammo, you can get the exact value of the holdover by going to the Nikon Spot-On calculator. Just Google 'Nikon Spot On", register, and have fun playing around.
did anyone else see the Snake in the grass at 1.16?
Winchester 55 grain FMJ "White Box"… the cheap stuff.
What ammo are you using?
@firefox8192 no trajectorys are set off a 55gr .223 projectile
is it nice to use just for 1x (no magnification) ?
will this scope work with a 270windchester rifle?
@Contreras03 cloud
i bet thats a sweet scope. but no offense. i know the rings you're using to mount it and those things are shit. i have invested the extra money, bought a leupold mount and it's perfect. i can reccomend it.
does it work good with a 223 bolt action?
I wrote to Nikon about mounting one of those on my AR that had the handle. They answered me the very next day saying it could not be done, it wouldn't work, etc. I don't think the Nikon guy knew the word "Parallax" but he assured me it wouldn't work. So right here in the video of the Nikon shoot at 3:19, what do I see, a good old handle mount just like my weapon. I had the scope in my hand today at Cabela's and got the same crap from the sales boy. They need to comunicate!!!
I wrote to Nikon about mounting one of those on my MR that had the handle. They answered me the very next day saying it could not be done, it wouldn't work, etc. I don't think the Nikon guy knew the word "Parallax" but he assured me it wouldn't work. So right here in the video of the Nikon shoot at 3:19, what do I see, a good old handle mount just like my weapon. I had the scope in my hand today at Cabela's and got the same crap from the sales boy. They need to comunicate!!!
@nominalvelocity
i agree, it's a decent system.
in my other posts to this video i mentioned that i meant to be bitching about the difference between 1:12 and 1:9 twists for early and later ar barrels.
however, my real problem with it is that bdc values in the scope need to take in to account barrel length, bullet weight and powder values as well.
bdc values are not universal.
there is also too much difference in point of impact between 1:7 and 1:9 twist barrels for me without a scope adj.
@tapper45 Why would you need to re-barrel to shoot 55gr vs 62, 70, 75, 77 or even 80gr? 1:9 twist has 40-65gr covered, and 1:7 or is great if you intend to shoot up to 80gr… But 1:7 will also shoot 55 grain bullets decently.
Secondly: yeah the BDC is optimized for 55 grain bullets, but it works acceptably well for other weights, that's why they chose it. They also have a web applet which will tell you the BDC hold-over for ANY cartridge and bullet combo.
It's actually a pretty decent system.
most 18"-20" barrels you would use in long range shooting use a 1/8 to a 1/9 twist mine use a 1/8" twist so i can shoot 55 up to 75 gr bullets. my 1/7" twist gun hates 55gr out past 100 yrds. i can still hit targets but the groups are bad.
the real dealbreaker is that it isn't "for your ar", it is for "your dad's ar".
the m223 scopes are all optimized for the 55gr bullet. who the hell shoots that anymore from an ar?
sure you can swap complete uppers to shoot 55 gr instead of 62 but why spend the extra money ?
most people will do that to shoot 9mm or 6.8mm.
did nikon japan dream this up?
do they know the difference between 1:7 and 1:9 twist?
wow, let's run out to the store and re-barrel to use this scope!
Why is he using a different rifle for every set?