On Tuesday, the Supreme Court heard oral arguments in ghost gun case, Garland v. VanDerStok.
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there is no accepted definition for what "mental health" is supposed to look like!
no! dont! Stop! There's a peck here with an acorn pointed at me!!!!!
I give zero Fs about atf or their rule based tyranny.
The ATF also said pistol braces were legal for 12 years, too, but then changed their mind with a rule. So the idea that the ATF won't infringe on the definition of an AR-15 frame if this case is decided in their favor is total garbage. They've shown the propensity to do exactly that and have with other items.
How about you outlaw the ATF.
Gosh imagine listening to this woman all day 🤦🏻♂️
This attorney is a liar .
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They always seem to want to ban guns. Never does any good. Because the only ones it hurts is the law abiding ones. They should change the punishment for committing crimes with a firearm.
Making it illegal wont stop criminals from owning/using these weapons…..disarming law abiding citizens doesn't help anyone but the government in their slow march to take away all freedoms.
Since when does the ATF make law? Doesnt congress do that?
Misleading clickbait.
Whoa! Did she just destroy the 4th and 7th Circuit Courts argument about so called assault weapons being machine guns? She said "this is the same interpretation the agency (ATF) has had all along and it has NEVER suggested that AR15's standing alone are regulated machine guns." OOOPS!!!
But that is exactly what you are saying about a piece of metal that has a designated part number of xyz123, which is by itself an end item, but when manipulated and then reassembled, it becomes something else, not part number xyz123.
Good! The AR should be banned…
BULL, the ATF&E always works in the "Gray Area", never black or white. So, if they government wins this case, you can almost bet that they will start turning this ruling in other directions.
mumbo-jumbo…wait for some Marxist judge to create a new "interpretation" of these bogus gun laws. No common sense.
Doesn't that aregument about ar15s being not machine guns vs machine guns undercut the entirety of the basis of the unfinished frames and recievers rule?
Wrong!!!!
In Knoxville tn the city council passed a law which said if a bar had live dancing rhen the entity would be required to pay a huge entertainment tax, supposedly for strip clubs, and said it could never pertain to regular bars that allowed their patrons to dance to a juke box or a live singer!
Jump a few years down rhe road and now they enforce that law even on the small dive bars!
Never trust a communist!
They already are criminals. This just makes them easier to catch.
Remind me again. When was the last time a MACHINE GUN was used in a mass shooting? This is clearly testing the water for regulating ARs
you think a would be mass shooter gonna follow rules?
Congress makes laws , not the ATF. The supreme court should advise them of that.
Let’s not lose sight of the big picture: the constitution gives the government no right to ban fully auto weapons either. This is a moot point: you can’t ban it legally whether it’s semi auto or full auto. Both are clearly arms appropriate to a militia. So both are fully protected from infringement.
Get back to basics: as written and intended the constitution allows NO law restricting fully auto weapons.
My full automatic weapons liscense is regulatory for executions and rules at the court go to bureau of alcohol tabbaco firearms and explosives
Idc what words yall use, YOU CANNOT INFRINGE ON THE 2ND AMENDMANT. Period! Stop trying to create loopoles out of thin air to try and control us! None of you have ANY RIGHT NOR AUTHORITY.
Didnt she just undercut he whole argument? If a ar receiver is a stand alone object, so is a 80% lower. It is a block of aluminum in the general shape of a receiver standing alone. It may, as may a rectangular block of aluminum, be shaped into a receiver. Taking he logic out, ATF could ban a bag of aluminum cans as a ghost gun, because by putting the cans in a bag you have taken the first step to recycle them into a receiver.
Guess I should order another one.
“Put a pistol on a brace, and it…turns into a gun. Makes them where you can have a higher-caliber weapon – a higher-caliber bullet – coming out of that gun. It’s essentially turning it into a short-barreled rifle, which has been a weapon of choice by a number of mass shooters.” – Biden
“They showed me an X-ray and said a .22-caliber bullet will lodge in a lung, and we can probably get it out and save a life. A 9mm bullet blows the lung out of the body,” – Also Biden
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She is lying. The low receiver for an ar15 is the same for an m16 pre machining. In other words, if you possess an 80% ar15 lower the atf is going to charge you with possessing a machine gun. The atf knows what they are trying to accomplish.
Prelogar is lying through her teeth. Some years back, a judge on the east coast ruled that ARs are bannable because they can be "readily" converted to full auto.
Shawn hannty owns one are you going to turn him in thanks joey decraceful president that does nothing but ruined people lives i wouldn't trun nobody in unless i saw a real crime its a decraceful thing to do just because someone owns a gun you shouldn't punish people the ones who are responsible we mightest well take everything away thats the democrats party mojo
Massachusetts Governor Healey is in breach of Constitution lately. As far as I'm concerned, her "authority" is hereby null and void. 😀
You have no obligation to obey unjust "laws."
Talking in circles to fake your point.
They turned bump stocks into machine guns.
They claim a stabilizer stock makes an AR more dangerous.
These people identify little boys as little girls and vise versa.
So they will identify an AR as an automatic weapon if this allowed to stand.
Any semi auto gun can be converted to full auto, even pistols.
2nd Amendment is clear. A regulation is an infringement.