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The fact that we even need to have this conversation is a testament to how far Colt has fallen as a company. Hubris and decades of mismanagement are the reasons Colt is a shell of the manufacturing powerhouse it use to be.
It is how colt has treated the people who buy their products and people are sick of it. If you don't know this do your research. Plus no innovation for decades there heyday is over and colt will lose their last government contract in 2024 and they just might declare bankruptcy again and good riddance.
I just bought a new CR6940 on the basis that they were unavailable for a reasonable price as the LE6940. The rifle I received is tight and right. All of the proper markings on the BCG and bolt are there and the upper has the 'C' on the right side and the hammer is 'S' 's' marked. the barrel is properly cage coded and marked. I am very happy with getting the rifle for under $1400, all in and done, in my hands….which was just a few days ago and this week will be its first range trip.
I have a friend who works for Colt in Hartford. He told me the quality control has not changed at all, outsource the barrel from rosco and another company, i forgot which one he said. Those barrels are made to colts specifications and every barrel is inspected. The bcg is from microbest, and are also inspected by Colt as well. The small parts and the receivers are all Colt. The reason some don’t have the cage code, is because those were originally going to another company who buys Colt finished receivers. So really the only thing that’s not made by Colt are the barrel and bcg. They also stopped F marking the fsb because they no longer make carry handle C7 and A2 uppers, so they only use flat top compatible FSBs. They also don’t do the white dot on the bolt anymore, because those bolts with the white dot were the ones being shipped to the US government. Other than those things, Colt is still producing rifles to TDP spec. They’re every bit as good, if not better, than the older Colts. If you’re in the market for a properly marked Colt M4, these are not what you’re looking for. Those will cost you almost double the price. If you’re looking for a combat ready and proven rifle, you can’t go wrong with one of these Colts
I’ll put either of my M&P 15s up against that colt for accuracy and reliability and you can get them for 700$ every 3 months when rual king has a sale! What made a colt worth the money for me was the fact they made all the parts in house and they were the exact rifle issued to our service members! If they are outsourcing parts then why pay that much more money? I don’t care who QCs the rifle as long as I’m getting the same life and accuracy out of it! And after shooting my Ruger MPR 18” with a two stage trigger and rifle length gas system I have to say I like that rifle better than either one and I got that rifle with Magpul furniture for $850 so the appeal the colt had is gone for me. Not saying it’s a bad gun just that it’s not worth 300+ more dollars than my other rifles in my opinion.
Where's the bayonet lugs? Did they ban that too wtf how many people are actually going too carry it with a bayonet its a wonder they haven't banned the firing pin not too be infringed on what part of that don't they understand people that don't know guns regulating people that do that makes a lot of sense NOT 🤔
I bought one for nostalgia back in 2016. I could hit a man sized silhouette from 500 yards away using iron sights with as a 2x expert Marine rifleman. That was good enough for me. My other rifles are prettier with all the modern gear but my colt M4 will always be my favorite. This thing has dropped more terries than all the others I bet.
Colt is still making their rifles to pass mil spec TDP tolerances..Every part is made by DOD approved venders if not made in house..Colt has always used subcontractors for parts, nothing new..Colts laboratory is still checking parts to make sure the parts are made correctly with the proper metals. All Colt bolts and barrels are magnetic particle pressure tested..Every Colt I have gauged has been spot on..A lot of misinformation being spread about Colt..
The '2013 configuration' is when Colt no longer sold the 6920 with the removable carry handle or the side mounted front sling swivel. The front sling swivel was moved back down under the barrel like on previous generations. The side mount is to accommodate the M203 grenade launcher.
Colt is still included that sear blocker? Definite skip, build your own guys. Lets not mention charging 2 Gs for their retro rifles. If you want a good clone go with FN.
Excellent video sir ..I picked up a socom yesterday and ill be honest I've been a Windham Bushmaster guy but the colt M4A1 SOCOM has won me over to Colt especially since every part in my rifle except for 2 parts were cage coded and it had all the m p markings too.. I have plans to add more coits to my arsenal.
My criticisms aren't at all with the quality. I'm still 100% confident in the quality and performance in new production Colts. My issue is the lack of markings. I bought an M4A1 SOCOM because I wanted an identical copy of the M4 I'm issued. Yet the barrel, fsb, upper receiver, bolt assembly, NONE of the parts are marked the same way. It doesn't have that Colt signature personality. It's just another AR15 decorated as my military M4. Again, I know the quality and performance is there. But I wasn't concerned with that when I bought it. I don't shoot it. Yes, it's a safe queen. It's not the rifle I train with and put thousands of rounds per year through. This one is sentimental. But I'm really disappointed with it. It may have the Hartford Horsey, but none of the proof marks it should have.
Id rather have a BCM standard M4. If it was an 05 LE6920, there'd be no question. The current guns have parts that are outsourced. The premium money for an in house built M4 was not a problem. They don't even have M4 lasered into the receiver.
To get the questions answered about these guns, got watch LE6920 vs CR6920 on SMALL ARMS SOLUTIONS channel. He's a former historian at Colt and rewrote their manuals. Dude definitely knows his schitt. He is THE authority on everything black rifle. He's got a bunch of vids. You get smart watching this guy's vids. I've seen em all.
The double 'S' marks on the hammer indicate that the trigger group and selector switch are made by Schmid Tool & Engineering, which is the CAGE coded vendor for all military M4 and M16 trigger groups, and have been for years. FN uses them in both their military M4 carbines and the commercial M4 collector series. Geissele also uses them in their ALG/QMS trigger line. A small 'S' in a box should also be visible on your selector/safety switch. Decentralized manufacturing with tear one vendors, specializing in specific parts, is a normal manufacturing standard.
I’ve got a Colt Cr6920 and an Le6920 (restricted) to me they are both great!! It’s cool to see the different marking between them and the new colts are still of great quality.
I’ve got LE marked 6920s and CR marked 6920s. I can honestly say the quality is consistent across the board. They’ve got the proper cage codes where they need to be and all the proper marks. There’s a lot of haters out there that have never owned a colt and have zero clue what they’re talking about.
When the upper and lower are 2 different shades, that's called a clue, stamps and markings are faked everywhere, so to outsource the parts and then say they're still Colt Just not buying it? They out source to get cheaper parts, but do they pass the savings on? No, they don't, so Ya hard pass for me. Also outsourced parts now a day's mean CHINA.
I've only been hearing that Colt's quality control has been going to shit for about ten plus years now. Yeah, I don't buy it. They aren't the most pretty guns around, but they run really damn well and really aren't as expensive as people make them out to be.
People love to hate on Colt is what I have learned over the years, lol, the funny thing is when you actually look at everything they still look like a regular old Colt, such as the anodizing, Colt’s anodizing just looks different from most manufacturers and always have when you actually look at them, and even Misha said they still smell the same, lol, I say they’re still just as good as they ever was from a shooters standpoint, and considering what you are getting at the price point there at in my opinion about the best AR 15 on the market, sure there are more Gucci AR 15s out there but for their price point, you really can’t beat them, especially considering the fact that they really are built about as good as anyone can build them, they make good shooters. They generally hold around an inch and a half MOA and they’re good for roughly around 20,000 rounds, my opinion the only real way to beat one of them is to go with a Daniel defense, but you can buy 2 Colt’s for the price of one of them, so yeah for the price point you really can’t be a good old Colt, lol, great video👍👍
I got a colt m4a1 model a little over a year ago, and unfortunately the castle nut was only staked in one spot. Went ahead and staked it myself in the other spot, still bummed it didn’t come from the factory staked though.
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Colt m4 carbine16" 1-7 twist 77 grain imi happiness is a warm gun
I wouldn’t hesitate to get one
The fact that we even need to have this conversation is a testament to how far Colt has fallen as a company. Hubris and decades of mismanagement are the reasons Colt is a shell of the manufacturing powerhouse it use to be.
It is how colt has treated the people who buy their products and people are sick of it. If you don't know this do your research. Plus no innovation for decades there heyday is over and colt will lose their last government contract in 2024 and they just might declare bankruptcy again and good riddance.
I just bought a new CR6940 on the basis that they were unavailable for a reasonable price as the LE6940. The rifle I received is tight and right. All of the proper markings on the BCG and bolt are there and the upper has the 'C' on the right side and the hammer is 'S' 's' marked. the barrel is properly cage coded and marked.
I am very happy with getting the rifle for under $1400, all in and done, in my hands….which was just a few days ago and this week will be its first range trip.
Am15 with the upper best choice
No way in hell would I drop a band on a basic ass mil spec colt. They still rock’n a carbine gas system on a 16” none free floated rail bruh…
I have a friend who works for Colt in Hartford. He told me the quality control has not changed at all, outsource the barrel from rosco and another company, i forgot which one he said. Those barrels are made to colts specifications and every barrel is inspected. The bcg is from microbest, and are also inspected by Colt as well. The small parts and the receivers are all Colt. The reason some don’t have the cage code, is because those were originally going to another company who buys Colt finished receivers. So really the only thing that’s not made by Colt are the barrel and bcg. They also stopped F marking the fsb because they no longer make carry handle C7 and A2 uppers, so they only use flat top compatible FSBs. They also don’t do the white dot on the bolt anymore, because those bolts with the white dot were the ones being shipped to the US government. Other than those things, Colt is still producing rifles to TDP spec. They’re every bit as good, if not better, than the older Colts. If you’re in the market for a properly marked Colt M4, these are not what you’re looking for. Those will cost you almost double the price. If you’re looking for a combat ready and proven rifle, you can’t go wrong with one of these Colts
I cant turn a colt rifle into a machine gun
I’ll put either of my M&P 15s up against that colt for accuracy and reliability and you can get them for 700$ every 3 months when rual king has a sale! What made a colt worth the money for me was the fact they made all the parts in house and they were the exact rifle issued to our service members! If they are outsourcing parts then why pay that much more money? I don’t care who QCs the rifle as long as I’m getting the same life and accuracy out of it! And after shooting my Ruger MPR 18” with a two stage trigger and rifle length gas system I have to say I like that rifle better than either one and I got that rifle with Magpul furniture for $850 so the appeal the colt had is gone for me. Not saying it’s a bad gun just that it’s not worth 300+ more dollars than my other rifles in my opinion.
There no longer colt,,,there parts casters …dont pay extra for a name brand ……
A.B.C.
What’s the update??
Thanks.
Where's the bayonet lugs? Did they ban that too wtf how many people are actually going too carry it with a bayonet its a wonder they haven't banned the firing pin not too be infringed on what part of that don't they understand people that don't know guns regulating people that do that makes a lot of sense NOT 🤔
I bought one for nostalgia back in 2016. I could hit a man sized silhouette from 500 yards away using iron sights with as a 2x expert Marine rifleman. That was good enough for me. My other rifles are prettier with all the modern gear but my colt M4 will always be my favorite. This thing has dropped more terries than all the others I bet.
Junk
If you look at the forward end of th rail, it's hard to see because of the hand guard, you will see "M4" on it.
Colt is still making their rifles to pass mil spec TDP tolerances..Every part is made by DOD approved venders if not made in house..Colt has always used subcontractors for parts, nothing new..Colts laboratory is still checking parts to make sure the parts are made correctly with the proper metals. All Colt bolts and barrels are magnetic particle pressure tested..Every Colt I have gauged has been spot on..A lot of misinformation being spread about Colt..
The '2013 configuration' is when Colt no longer sold the 6920 with the removable carry handle or the side mounted front sling swivel. The front sling swivel was moved back down under the barrel like on previous generations. The side mount is to accommodate the M203 grenade launcher.
Which store did you buy from?
Colt is still included that sear blocker? Definite skip, build your own guys. Lets not mention charging 2 Gs for their retro rifles. If you want a good clone go with FN.
606 Represent! Born & raised
I like the colt m4a1
Excellent video sir ..I picked up a socom yesterday and ill be honest I've been a Windham Bushmaster guy but the colt M4A1 SOCOM has won me over to Colt especially since every part in my rifle except for 2 parts were cage coded and it had all the m p markings too.. I have plans to add more coits to my arsenal.
My criticisms aren't at all with the quality. I'm still 100% confident in the quality and performance in new production Colts. My issue is the lack of markings. I bought an M4A1 SOCOM because I wanted an identical copy of the M4 I'm issued. Yet the barrel, fsb, upper receiver, bolt assembly, NONE of the parts are marked the same way. It doesn't have that Colt signature personality. It's just another AR15 decorated as my military M4. Again, I know the quality and performance is there. But I wasn't concerned with that when I bought it. I don't shoot it. Yes, it's a safe queen. It's not the rifle I train with and put thousands of rounds per year through. This one is sentimental. But I'm really disappointed with it. It may have the Hartford Horsey, but none of the proof marks it should have.
I got issued a 6920 Magpul edition back in 2018. It shot fine, but it was really gassy.
That Slim handguard is the only Magpul part I don't like. Its just hard to remove and install.
Have you shot it yet? Get it zero? Can it fit a bayo?
They're not junk, but they're not the gold standard, either.
Id rather have a BCM standard M4. If it was an 05 LE6920, there'd be no question. The current guns have parts that are outsourced. The premium money for an in house built M4 was not a problem. They don't even have M4 lasered into the receiver.
To get the questions answered about these guns, got watch LE6920 vs CR6920 on SMALL ARMS SOLUTIONS channel. He's a former historian at Colt and rewrote their manuals. Dude definitely knows his schitt. He is THE authority on everything black rifle. He's got a bunch of vids. You get smart watching this guy's vids. I've seen em all.
The double 'S' marks on the hammer indicate that the trigger group and selector switch are made by Schmid Tool & Engineering, which is the CAGE coded vendor for all military M4 and M16 trigger groups, and have been for years. FN uses them in both their military M4 carbines and the commercial M4 collector series. Geissele also uses them in their ALG/QMS trigger line.
A small 'S' in a box should also be visible on your selector/safety switch.
Decentralized manufacturing with tear one vendors, specializing in specific parts, is a normal manufacturing standard.
Which uppers have m4 roll marks on them? Have no problem with these but I definitely want some marking to match a lower
They might as well put a Magpul dust cover. Still, not bad.
I have the same one brotha she has ate everything I put in the mag 😎😎😎
I would be fine with Colt and caliber markings…….the rest of that wording is bs….who cares
I love my CR6920!!
I’ve got a Colt Cr6920 and an Le6920 (restricted) to me they are both great!! It’s cool to see the different marking between them and the new colts are still of great quality.
I’ve got LE marked 6920s and CR marked 6920s. I can honestly say the quality is consistent across the board. They’ve got the proper cage codes where they need to be and all the proper marks. There’s a lot of haters out there that have never owned a colt and have zero clue what they’re talking about.
When the upper and lower are 2 different shades, that's called a clue, stamps and markings are faked everywhere, so to outsource the parts and then say they're still Colt Just not buying it? They out source to get cheaper parts, but do they pass the savings on? No, they don't, so Ya hard pass for me. Also outsourced parts now a day's mean CHINA.
I've only been hearing that Colt's quality control has been going to shit for about ten plus years now. Yeah, I don't buy it. They aren't the most pretty guns around, but they run really damn well and really aren't as expensive as people make them out to be.
People love to hate on Colt is what I have learned over the years, lol, the funny thing is when you actually look at everything they still look like a regular old Colt, such as the anodizing, Colt’s anodizing just looks different from most manufacturers and always have when you actually look at them, and even Misha said they still smell the same, lol, I say they’re still just as good as they ever was from a shooters standpoint, and considering what you are getting at the price point there at in my opinion about the best AR 15 on the market, sure there are more Gucci AR 15s out there but for their price point, you really can’t beat them, especially considering the fact that they really are built about as good as anyone can build them, they make good shooters. They generally hold around an inch and a half MOA and they’re good for roughly around 20,000 rounds, my opinion the only real way to beat one of them is to go with a Daniel defense, but you can buy 2 Colt’s for the price of one of them, so yeah for the price point you really can’t be a good old Colt, lol, great video👍👍
without the m4 roll mark it might as well be a psa
I got a colt m4a1 model a little over a year ago, and unfortunately the castle nut was only staked in one spot. Went ahead and staked it myself in the other spot, still bummed it didn’t come from the factory staked though.