Simple to understand MOA vs MIL optics

Thank you! I’ve been looking for a new scope and every one that I find is in mil. I don’t mind switching but I couldn’t find an easy explanation yet as short as it was I get it now…well once I go shoot I’ll get it but at least I’ll have an idea of what I’m doing

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Very good explanation, thanks

One of the best explanations of the two measurements I’ve yet to hear. Thanks for posting

Nice explanation brother, I’m almost there 🤓

Excellent information my friend!! Well done!! I just learned!! That learning is good 😎

The one actual advantage to milliradian scopes is in range estimation. With a mil scope, you simply measure the height of a known object in mils and then plug into the formula (Target height in UNITS) x 1000/(Target height in MILS) = (Target range in UNITS). This works for any UNITS: yards, meters, inches, etc. Just use the SAME UNITS for the known target height and resulting target range. With a MOA reticle the formula is harder to remember as it involves a constant: (Target height in YARDS) x 2.65/(Target height in MOA) = (Target range in YARDS). Not too difficult to remember the formula when using mils; you're going to need to write down the formula MOA a bunch of times before you can memorize it and if you want to use different units the "2.65" will change accordingly.

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BRO !…THAT WAS AN AWESOME EXPLANATION !!..NOW I GOT TO CHECK OUT ALL MY OPTICS AND SEE IF I HAVE A MIL RETICLE OR MOA…I DON'T GET TO SHOOT MUCH SINCE ALL THE YANKEE'S MOVED DOWN TO FLA AND BUILT HOMES EVERYWHERE 😖…. 30-40 YEARS AGO I USED TO BE ABLE TO HOP IN MY TRUCK AND DRIVE 10 MINUTES AND GO SHOOTING. NOT ANYMORE…BUMMER…ANYWAYS THX FOR THIS VIDEO !

Lol, sort of have to laugh at the example though. 16 moa so click,click,click,click… 16 times. Lol, there isn’t a moa scope out there that clicks 1 moa at a time (usually 1/4) so 48 clicks. Now the 5 mil, click click click click click? Mil scope are in 1/10 mil. So 50 clicks would be needed. There’s a few more clicks needed in moa because moa adjustments are slightly smaller. I haven’t seen even one of these videos that really makes any sense for US shooters to use mil. I realize that it doesn’t really matter when correcting a miss shot because you just use the reticle. Missed 2 marks left and 3 up, doesn’t matter what the marks mean. But nrl and prs targets are all in yards not meters. So how are those calculations working for you? They aren’t, you use a dope card with yardages to mills on it that you figured out ahead of time. Maybe you like your reticle to have lower numbers on it. Plus, the fact that a lot of comp shooters are using mil makes talking to each other in the same language better. But US people can’t judge meters or cm by looking. Now onto the fact that mil is a 10 based system to doesn’t matter the units (just ratio) for example 1” adjustment at 100 yds is 10” at 1000yds. (Problem is your scope doesn’t adjust for 1”, you’d have to adjust for 2.54cm). In conclusion, imo, considering you’re adjusting your misses by the reticle markings and not by measurement and your dope card for yardage adjustment is your yardage “calculation” not moa or mil, reticle is your windage; the only real advantage here is for talking between competitors and smaller numbers in your scope

To avoid confusion you maybe should use the short mrad vs MOA, not mil vs MOA. That how most manufacturers identify their scopes Mil is used also in reticle and that’s when it gets confusing with some users who confuse it with bdc reticles

My understanding is that the WHOLE industry..that’s SERIOUS ABOUT SHOOTING, are all dealing in MIL equipment, ONLY Mil scopes or optics with the corresponding mil reticles. Supposedly as you gain experience THAT is exactly where you end up! (Direct info from ‘Paramount Tactical’..30 years exp)

Good explanation. Thank you.

The part where u talked about having to do more clicks on MOA scopes, dont most people just use the hold over on the reticle so u dont need to click?

Knowing that 90% of prs shooters use Mil, ill buy a Mil scope.
Better resale…lol

Thanks for breaking it down. I also grew up with MOA scopes. Everyone told me I needed to go to mil to compete because theres a reason everyone uses mils. When I went to my first PRS match the course of fire was all written down in yardage. Made it simpler to not have to convert haha.

So moving 1 inch at 100 with my mil scope would be 3 full mils? Or 3/10 of a mil, for a MOA or inch movement?

I would like to thank you for helping me understand it so much better. I would love to talk to you about guns range shooting different type of guns to have also setting up a new scope

So if I’m right. In mil, if it’s hitting 43” low at 500 yards. That’s approximately 24 clicks?

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You are making a video to teach viewers. Don't use the poor teacher practice of thinking "everyone knows that". Serious misnomer. When you use analogies thinking you are helping people to understand you are failing. One, you are making a video for a large class (YouTube aka global) so to generalize is to fail. We are not all the same. When you add the concept of "think of it like this" you are distorting and convoluting what you want people to understand. If you don't think they'll understand the information for what it is, how are they going to get it when you add more information that doesn't even pertain. You are compensating for your inability to teach. Watch Cyclops give an optic class.

Well done thank you

Incorrect , mils have nothing to do with the metric system. Dismissed!

Best description / talk between mil and moa yet – great job!!

Question – assume turret says 1/4" at 100 adjustment, isn't that actually off about .47 of an inch off, per MOA adjusted at 1000 – unless that scope specifically states it's a 1/4 MOA movement at 100? 1/4 inch moved at 100 is really a IPHY adjustment applied to MOA?

I feel sad that I don't get it still when you say 625y is 17.5 moa I see that in the app but I don't see mentally how to get their, like when I calc it from what I understand which is wrong clearly I get 6.25moa cos 100yard Is 1 inch which is 1 moa. What am I not seeing

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Awesome explanation. Bought a vortex MRAD scope on a deal.

You don’t need big power, just 12-15 power to shoot long range?

I’m over here with my 1-4x LPVO and my 1-7x 😅is not much better…

Yes mill and MOA are functionally worked the same way period but one is actually giving you angle, and the other one gives you inches at given distance. Don't need to overcomplicate this thing

After dozens of videos this video was the most dumbed down version with the numbers I have been looking for! Thank you

Ive never seen anyone break down forumulas using moa.

Mill range estimation is quite easy. Check out ryan cleckner understanding mils.

MIL is better by far, it's what we used in the USAF Spl Ops Wing, its what my father taught me, he was USAAC/USAF WWII – Korea.

Actually wrong – US Military used MilDot reticle with MOA turrets. That’s actually very proven system. Worked in all wars perfectly.

Great explanation..

Very good video, thank you

Perfect Thanks

I'm just as lost as when I started.

It all depends on the location of your food.

I have 2 LR scopes that have Mil reticles with MOA adjustments, but I don't care, because I dont care about ranging with a reticle. If I am at a shooting range, I know the distance. If not, I have a laser range finder. Besides, in order to range with a reticle you have to have a reference at distance and that is not always available and often involves guesswork. Guesswork is guesswork, I don't need a reticle to accomplish that. There are other, and frankly better ways to gage distance.

Very informative for a newbie, thanks.

Hello
Maybe stupid question but what is confuses me is let say rifle is zeroed at 100m on ammo box say at 200m you have to go up 11cm but strelok calculate only 3click (MIL scooe 1click=1/10) it is corect what ball.app say?
Thank you

Thank you you just put it where the goats can get it

Mils sure make it easy.