How Likely Is It That ATF Shows Up to Get Your AR Pistol?

Cannot they just be converted to rifles?

when an agency starts making laws they dont have authority to make and those laws infringe on constitutional rights, then it dont matter how well we follow them, they will find a way to criminalize us. we are the only ones playing by the rules.This is why we have been railroaded into excepting so many infringements as is. tyranny dont happen over night, its been a process for a long time. tyranny dont care about the open comments time frame, its simply to make us feel like our voice is heard. At some point, they are going to for law abiding G owners to either surrender, or truly exercise their 2A right for its intended purpose. yes we are still a ways off from this, but this is the goal they are aiming to hit.

It's funny because I only made the option because it was available in the first place.
It was encouraged because of the ability to change barrel lengths.
😂GTFOH

This is what happens when you don't follow the 2nd Amendment as written. There is NO (BUT) at the end of our 2nd Amendment saying we need tyrants or dictator's permission or to be forced by fearmongering, guilting or forcing people to pay to use a right. Time to wake up and read your constitution and Bill of Rights. Once they have got your 2nd Amendment you won't have any other rights. The 2nd Amendment isn't just for self defense, but to protect ALL the rights in the bill of rights. Without it you have nothing. They make a copy of the constitution called Constitution for dummies (This book makes it easy to understand your rights without all the mumbo jumbo) In a nutshell stop buying infringement's and stand up for your rights as they are written. Definition Inalienable rights: Can't be given away nor can they be taken away.

First Question is: Why or how is the ATF, a Federal Government Agency, in receipt of any firearms sales information ? This information should be kept at the state level, hence preventing a National Firearms Registry which is currently illegal. Please advise as to what I am missing here…

thank you

WHAT BOTHERS ME IS THAT #ATF FOCUSED ON #LAW–#ABIDING CITIZENS AND NOT THE #CAREER #CRIMINALS, WHATS UP WITH THAT?

Wooooooow great information thank so much for this 👍👍👍

If they do this, it needs to be pointed out they have been using an illegal firearm registry.

yeah…but this video is assuming the ATF has been illegally copying / keeping 4473s from FFLs thus creating a unlawful firearms registry in which to source this information…… oh, wait….. never mind….

Not going to be any laws in the end… let alone people to enforce them.

Does anyone else after watching this get more and more confused? Why the hell are we allowing them to infringe on our 2nd amendment?

There's going to be a lot of ATF agents not going home if they take peoples guns.

When they also have to create a registry in order to be able to do this?… Which is also supposed to be illegal (not like they care about things like that though)

So FFL forms are a gun registry. Case closed on that then.

I thought it was illegal for the ATF to document the firearms we purchased ?

I’ve dealt with the ATF and NFA firsthand after my father died, owning a suppressor and an SBR. Those people don’t have a clue and they’re not organized enough to come to your house and seize your weapons.

Yeah they might get it…, barrel first

They can try, however nowhere i. The atf charter is enforcement of laws defined nor, mentioned they enforce tax code. The atf has overstepped its reach in every aspect.

Given you weren’t an idiot when making your purchases and used discretion when ordering then it’s likely they don’t even know you have it – this is all speculation tho as I own none 👌

I bought a stripped lower from an FFL in 2022. When the guy did the paperwork he asked if it was going to be a pistol. At the time I hadn't decided yet what I would use the lower for so I had him put down pistol, just in case. I thought it was weird that he had to ask me what it was intended for.

If they show up just say you destroyed It…. Nothing more they can do…..

So building your own AR-pistol may be better? for doing it this way would potentially keep the atf off your doorstep.

The real question is how likely would it be for all the other gun owners that live around my house make the ATF drop and leave their guns or die from trespassing

wow, never would have thought. Big reasons to build on top of your own lower.

See…what happened was, I had a boating accident…

How is this proposed the change affected by the Ex Post Facto provision in the US Constitution?

Yeah I got rid of my 8" FX-9 with SBA3 just last month, even if the SBA3 doesn't become banned it will still have shouldering issues that I want nothing to do with. I tried using the pistol brace as intended (strapped to my right arm) and that gun was just a bit to heavy to actually one arm dependably…..

It's sad indeed but it's my decision and I don't have the money,time or power to fight it. That's the real truth

I’m looking for the item? Paperwork? Orders? Law written and voted and signed by people or person that has given the authority and power to enforce legally all the things I see the ATF doing to say this is a valid and legal law for a rule? Random decision? Made by who or how within the ATF.
Basically a “who died and made you the boss of everything concerning firearms and these random rules “that are not laws to me.
I can’t find anything in the government’s website and regulations to show when and what to let them do this crap.

Anyone know where to find this information? I’m not having any luck with this search beyond seeing another gov agency that has overstepped its authority and boundaries listed in the constitutions amendments of limited government powers. This making something illegal when the basis of our nations laws are directly tied to the constitution.
It looks as if a nerdy poque who is afraid to touch a firearm just throws darts at a number and says it’s the law or go to jail when you own something that’s expressively said is a basic human right to have.
I appreciate the definitions and breakdown of what the paperwork Says. It is hard to not ignore the convoluted details placed on a confusing narrative of a apparent attempt to have people make mistakes so the atf can say whatever it wants to justify its actions.

It’s not hard to see from what I wrote above how many unnecessary words have been said to explain this. I’ve heard the argument of any laws stopping citizens from owning firearms is illegal. I used to just think nothing about the first ban in 36? 38? Now I’m sure it’s illegal and needs to go away. Enough with this belief every letter needs to have a examination to give its meaning authority over the actual amendment.

Thank you for taking the time to get us this information. Again how was the ATF able to do this in light of the supreme Court latest rulings? Does this ATF rule past the supreme Court ruling of the one step approach? Help me to understand. Thank you very much

How likely are they to show up if you buy multiple guns in a short amount of time?

Buy unfinished lowers, if I want a pistol I have a pistol. If I want to convert it to a rifle, poof, I have a rifle. Fck the ATF.

3 letter agencies cannot Wright law. And The laws have not changed. Government Codes or policy, do not supercede the Constitution. I don't see why this is even a discussion.

You know the gun industry will find a way to circumvent this. Perhaps a new type of buffer tube thats milled in the shape of a brace/stock..?

A better question is; how many ATF thugs are going to get shot when attempting to carry out unconstitutional orders?

what is the likelihood of this holding up over time?

All unconstitutional. Ever seen the (BUT) or the part of the 2nd Amendment that says must pay tyrants and yes men in order to use our 2nd Amendment? Nope me either. Bad days to be an unconstitutional yes man for a tyrannical buck.

>agencies can't make regulation
>so anyways, here's our new full ass laws dropping next month!

Or you can turn your pistol into a pistol. You forgot that option. Pistol buffer tubes (obviously without a brace) will still be legal. This is worst case of course, assuming this ruling doesn't get blown away in court.

I for one am glad I watched this video. Learned a lot here on this one! Moral of the story? ALWAYS start with a lower receiver when building a firearm!!! 😅

Let's see how this all shakes out, folks.

Ripe for challenging this nonsense and getting SBRs scrubbed from the NFA due to common use.

Thank you Mr. Kirk for your service.

So here's the million dollar question.
If atf shows up to your house without a warrant and demands to see said firearms and they try to force their way in does anyone as a law-abiding American citizen have the right to act in self defense against the thieves/atf?

So they won't look into receivers……

You should do a video on the "ex post facto" aspect of this situation. By the ATF just rewriting the rules, 20 years after the fact, they are creating an ex post facto situation. The US Constitution forbids ex post facto laws. Surely there is a case to be made here from that perspective. What do you say?

Also, what makes a short barreled rifle an illegal weapon? It says shall not be infringed. I doesn't say "unless 16" or shorter." The whole concept of making one weapon illegal over another is ridiculous. They are all bearable arms. AFAIAC, a mini-gun is a bareable arm (if you can lift it, it's bareable.) That should be the only distinction.