Why I Don't Use PMAGs

I like pmags over aluminum or steel. The thing with metal mags is they bend without breaking and if stepped on they might look ok, but have bent enough to be unreliable. Polymer is nice because they flex and if broken they actually crack and you have a very obvious visual reason to throw them out. Ive seen a lot of people with metal mags for their AR keep trying to get an old mag to work when there's a very minor tweak in the feed lip or sidewall that keeps it from functioning.

Ive had enough trouble w pmag to not use them.

Wont lock
Wont release
The only failure ive w this rifle is pmag refusing to seat garbage

GI mags are Aluminum. Flimsy at best.

As a retired service member I’m pretty sure we only used aluminum magazines.

I agree 100%.

There is a reason Thermolds are called Thermelts. Granted poly mags are mostly ok, I do not wish to have that thought in the back of my head in the field. Especially when GI mags are proven.

Also remember, the magazines are considered a “disposable” component of the system. Stoner designed it that way.

If I had my way, I think we should be using Lancer L5 Advanced Warfight Magazines (L5AWM)

I mostly use usgi magazines too. But I got a lancer to try and it seems to work fine in my rifle. My Cetme L won't take pmags. Lancer feels lighter and thinner. They can fit in my MOLLE II bandoleer where as pmags are too far. They also have metal reinforcement.

Agreed and not only that if your pmag gets run over guess what its fucked. Pmags are a problem in search of a solution

Pmags r better

I dunno about AR PMAGs, I've used both army issue and PMAG and they're the same. Now the AK PMAGs on the other hand… you can't beat it. Best AK mag choice by far. I've used Russian steel, North Korean steel, Polish plastic, US Palm, and PMAG and the PMAG shit on all the others.

Edit: also most normal people cannot afford to buy fancy rich hoity toity guns like F2000s, SCARs, and 416s, so who cares.

I think this ignores that biggest strengths of the Pmag, which is its reliability and durability. The old aluminum GI mags are notorious for wearing out and refusing the function. In the Marines we considered them damn near disposable. The Pmags are more reliable and durable. The purpose of the magazine is to feed, and the Pmag does this better. So the Pmag offers increased functionality in the single most important aspect of a feeding device, which is worth a couple ounces in weight and $4 to us. Why do we care if the Pmag doesn't function in the FS2000, or some other obscure design, when it functions better in the AR15, of which Americans own well over 20 million?

Pmags are more durable when dropped or run over, mine have a window to see the rounds (which USGI mags don't), they have better texture for handling…yeah I'll keep using Pmags.

My personal experience with the magpul 30 round I have in 7.62×39 is reload, the tooth on the mag doesn't pop and will ride halfway up the tooth, but also doesn't rattle when fully inserted like the korean steel 40 rounds. I've come to the conclusion that they're great to lead with as the first mag, zero other complains.

I totally agree

All of these issues could be argued are firearm issues, not mag issues.

now in 2022 colt go mags are more expensive than pmags , even some almost by double. in price.

Few people bought the SCAR !!!!
I never liked it and sold it within the year !!

The PMAG is "Far" quieter in a Combat theater which is very important and pushing the button pulling it out is generally not an issue, we keep our used Mags.
I guess if your in a Rifle competition the speed factor will come into play and I would use a Steel mag then !! Semper Fi

P mags are great! Until you leave them loaded and in the head. They expanded and don’t drop anymore

ok so basically good mag bad because bad gun doesnt like it

Nice Datejust. I had one just like it. An '89.

I noticed you changed “like” to “use” on the thumbnail. People were getting so sensitive while defending the PMAGs that they were disliking the video before watching it.

The only PMags I own came with guns that I purchased. All I use are GI mags and I have a lot of them. I've never had one that failed on me.

U didn’t mention one very important aspect which is that Metal mags are malleable and deform from hitting the ground..Only a matter of time before your warped or bent magazine causes more stoppages in your rifle that wouldn’t be an issue with the more durable pmag which is why the military trusts them more than their older counterparts

Well, in the first 10 seconds of the video you've already said "USGI steel magazines" so….

Imagine trying to put a non HK magazine in an HK rifle and complaining when it doesn't work. It's almost like you don't know the companies reputation or history

I read the title and said to myself “no one cares”

Oh noe, the pmag won’t work in the sa-80….

Wow its almost like a mag designed for and MADE for the ar15 has problems in non ar15 rifles 😮

Man decent stuff, but you're talking about $2,000 guns like everyone just has these laying around.

Sure your rifles are not fitted for pmags. They work just fine in all 9 of my rifles. Seems like a waste of time to make this video

That's part of wanting to go with "better quality" rifles. You pay a premium price for the rifle and you have to pay a premium price for the mags specifically designed for that rifle. I don't see the problem here.

0:58 couldn't a very, very minor sanding solve that first problem?

Some basic training and hunting skills are highly needed young man. What part of your self preservation permits you to step over a fence, with a firearm in your hands? 0:05

Pmags designed for ar’s bruh

Magpul not selling millions of mags cuz they fit every platform

I’ll be honest, I hate the idea of just dropping mags free. You have a possibility to lose those I think.

I like all Steel buy American products from local stores as much as possible support my community I do like 762×39 AR

Well! They better fix those guns so the pmags will fit.

After watching this video again. I apologize for the child-like name-calling. I have since deleted that post. In all seriousness. I have NEVER in my life had a PMag NOT drop free INSTANTLY, in EVERY weapon platform I've used them in. Being a spec 4 Marine, I've used more man-portable weapon systems than most. P-Mags we're used in all but the belt-fed S.A.W and any other belt-fed weapon. Otherwise, it was Magpul all the way. The problem with metal mags is just the slightest bend in the feed lips, like from a drop, and the mag won't fit, feed correctly, etc. Just my 2¢

I've had the same problems with pmags not seating properly but I fixed this by either taking 1 round from the mag or by reseating the mag's spring itself… idk how it worked but after that it sat comfortably in the rifle without the slap n pull

I think Magpul has solved these issues with the Gen 3 magazines.

Never had a problem with using this on the SA80

didint age well

Last round hold open doesnt work with my Aero lower. So yeah I stick with my USGI metal mags.