Welcome to the Ron Spomer Outdoors Podcast!
00:00 - Intro
00:27 – Tips or Tricks for an over-the-counter elk hunt in Colorado
03:30 – Moser 8×57
05:26 – Comparison of the 416 Ruger vs 375 Ruger
08:24 – 6mm ARC Cartridge
12:34 – AR 15 vs Current AR’s
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Who is Ron Spomer
For 44 years I’ve had the good fortune to photograph and write about my passion – the outdoor life. Wild creatures and wild places have always stirred me – from the first flushing pheasant that frightened me out of my socks in grandpa’s cornfield to the last whitetail that dismissed me with a wag of its tail. In my attempts to connect with this natural wonder, to become an integral part of our ecosystem and capture a bit of its mystery, I’ve photographed, hiked, hunted, birded, and fished across much of this planet. I’ve seen the beauty that everyone should see, survived adventures that everyone should experience. I may not have climbed the highest mountains, canoed the wildest rivers, caught the largest fish or shot the biggest bucks, but I’ve tried. Perhaps you have, too. And that’s the essential thing. Being out there, an active participant in our outdoor world.
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I went with grendel a few years back and it works well for deer. With the large overlap between that at 6 ARC, I won’t be picking a barrel up until I see ARC become way cheaper and more plentiful.
Armalite was part of Fairchild Aircraft Company.
I qualify on a M16A1 (full auto) every year. We use great big paper clips to keep the human silhouette targets in place. Why use the clips? Because I don't want to have to blood trail paper targets for miles.(5.56) Just kidding. Enjoyed this one. Still not a fan of hunting with the AR platform, but I think I would like the 6mm a lot better than 5.56. Thanks for the content.
"I like my rifles like I like my women slim and trim."
I'm just like you in that way Ron and just like you. I have one that is feisty enough to scare the devil out of me. When I say something she takes umbrage with. Yep I squirm just like you did.
I have killed two of the biggest bears every taken in Michigan. Did it at just mere feet, in the deepest darkest cedar swamps you have ever seen and did it with a handgun. I have raced Moto-X and jumped from airplanes done it all fearlessly. But that little women with just a look can make my blood run cold. ~~~burr shiver~~~~
I remember back in the 90's, all the gun/hunting writers were saying 338 for moose and elk.
Ron, great comments on hunting the west. Thin air and steep country almost mandate getting in the best shape that one can. Yes, I know round is a shape 😅. But the better physical shape, the easier it is to enjoy that beautiful country and the easier it is to pack out that elk. I've always talked to people about getting in to mental shape. The west, as you know, can be big lonely country and some people get freaked out by that. You are giving great advice and it warms my heart to hear an expect give the advice I've been preaching. Keep up the good work.
Cheers, Jeff.
Well said sir! More points for the Johnny Cash reference.
323 is the Standard 318 is long gone there are still some really old G98 out there but they are rare they were build till 1904
318 is 8x57I (I = Infanterie) with a round Nose Bullet
323 is 8x57IS ( IS = Infanterie Spitz)
The Name says the Bulletform 😀
that was one of the Standard Questions in the exam for the Hunting Lisence here in Germany 😜 there are way more Bullet Options out there for .323 than for .318 and yes 8x57IS is perfect for all Hunting it doesnt have the best Trajactory but for the typical Woodhunts or Short Range Driven Hunts here in Europe it is a golden Standard that can handle shorter Barrels like the 308 Win with the right Choice of Powder and doesnt destroy meat 180gn Bullets lead are the sweet Spot for the 8x57IS / leadfree there are also 160gn out there which works great and also give you flatter Trajactorys with more ft/s (Barnes TTSX is available in 160gn and so on ….) and it is like the 308 easy to Supress with smaller Supressors
Bigger Calibers often needs bigger Cans for the same Noise Reduction / so short Barrel (51cm 20 inch) plus Supressor is the way to go for the 8x57IS in a Hunting Rifle
The 8x57IS has become way more popular The last 20 Years than it was before all Rifle Manufacturers chamber it here in Europe. Until round about 2000 it was on the way to die but with more and more Wildboar and the popularity of Driven Hunts it has become more and more Popular, Recoilwise it is for me softer to shoot than a 30.06 with more or the same Energy on ranges till 300 yards it is more of a push instead of a punch on the Shoulder, hard to descripe but i think many Hunters understand what i say it is easier to handle
You're toast Ron. Looks like you'll sleeping in the dog house tonight. 🤣
I'm liking those Swarovski binoculars on the table Ron.
243WSSM fits an AR15 and uppers are available. 100-200fps higher than 243.
6mm arc would make a great military round to replace the 5.56
I've got nine AR, I love them they're so versatile I've got some in pistol-forum 10 inch barrel 556. I've got some in 300 Blackout which is surprisingly quiet I've also got a couple of AR-10. My favorite AR is the 50 caliber Beowulf oh, I like to use the Underwood Ammo 350g solid CNC copper round. 2900 foot-pounds. It's my favorite AR hog hunt. I pulled the trigger and they just drop. I was very surprised with my friend had a 556 AR with 55 green tip steel core. Immediately drop the hog. Over my experience I've come to realize that one AR can't do everything. I have a plethora of ARS because each one is specific task. I love my retro ars, their leight weight and sends those super fast down rangr
Another great commentary! Just to add a point to your comments on a western hunt. Get in shape. The elevation change is hard on a person even if in shape and if not– — well you will be miserable. Lastly, as we get older, we learn to enjoy the hunt / adventure. It becomes more important than the filling of the tag. I have eaten a lot more tags than big game in recent years but still had some great hunts. Thanks again for your efforts. Keep it up!
Nice love it.
For target shooting, 6.5 Grendel matches the .308 Winchester and 6mmARC leaves it in the dust. For deer hunting, both work as good as anything else. Not too shabby.
I took a lucky and I think now reckless shot and with a .270 I hit the top of the heart at 500 yards. I was with a military guide who wanted me to consider 600 yards which I passed. We did have time to talk about the shot and I was pretty much benched and conditions were perfect. We found my 150 grain partition expanded and inside the cage. It did break a rib going in . After I realized that I felt guilty pulling the trigger and wished I had a 7mm. It depends to me , but if you have the want for the hunt,the determination and good physical health many calibers are fine, probably even the 3030 if placed well. I quit smoking and didn't bring the Jack Daniels with and at least 100 rounds through my rifle , so it was my determination stupid luck that helped get that bull. 😎
I always thought a .416 necked down to .35 would make a wonderful North American large game cartridge. Ive had great luck with the .35 Whelen and always thought with the .416 necked down I could get a little more range and velocity …..alas Ive never seen or heard of such an animal so if you wanted one you would have to build one. I would do it with a model 70
What a shocker Ron Spomer is a “fudd”!!! Blows my damn mind!!!
I think Ron needs to dive deeper in 6.5 Grendel. It has the same ballistic trajectory as a .308. I think it would be an interesting comparison (6.5 versus .308).
Some good info. Thank u .
would love to learn about the .32 winchester special, and all the other .32 calibers out there
You have 450 bushmaster, .458 socom and .50 beowulf. All developed to do similar but different things. Bushmaster strictly as a hunting round and the other two basically taking the ar15 to it's maximum dimensions and needing to immobilize engines
I'm a huge fan of the AR15 and the 6mm ARC but I definitely agree with what you're saying you have to know there's limitations going into that platform… The 223/556 cartridge has a lot of uses and it's a great cartridge but when you want to shoot long range or hunt with an AR15 there's better options. I started with a 6.5 Grendel shooting long range and I still hunt with the Grendel now but after building a 6mm ARC I loved it so much I had a bolt gun built to see how far I can push it. As of now at least to me the 6mm ARC is king of the hill when it comes to the AR15 platform and shooting long range but for hunting purposes I still like the old Grendel then comes the 223/556 for self defense. Great video as always keepem coming brother!!!
Whoever asked that ELK question about and eastern boy starting to hunt out west was a question I had thanks for asking it
Ron you have the gift of easy understanding teaching, as always congratulations, best wishes from Brazil.
The point of 6arc is military use, it was developed in partnership with DOD. Seal team 6 doesn’t want bolt guns they want light weight and efficient
Tell all the dead people the 223 only wounds sir
If anyone has any doubts about the 6mm ARC, I took my first deer with the cartridge last season. It was a clean shot at 170 yards, both lungs and good expansion at the exit. He dressed out at 178 pounds and made it about 12 yards before he dropped. And these south east Georgia swamp deer are known for running 50 or more yards with a 308 in their hart/lungs. And forget about a Georgia coyote, 6 ARC drops them cold in there tracks. GET A 6 ARC!!!!!
Thanks Ron . I look forward to the next one.
I love Ron's sense of humor