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MD-25 ACSS + HM3X for me.
1) Weight savings compared to LPVO
2) No need for magnification at extended distance in an urban environment
Perfect timing on this video. Doing a 11.5 AR build which I will choose red dot with 3x magnifier. On my longer range rifles it's LPVO with one exception. My Fal rifle destroys scopes, so that red dot with 6x magnifier looks like the ticket.
Your channel is SUPREMELY underrated! This review is just what I needed at this very moment in time! 🤘🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾
My only gripe with the pst gen 2 is the mag ring tightness. At its price point considering all the other pros, the weight is an acceptable con
I don’t think an optic review, shit any review, could done any better than this. Your content shouldn’t be free! Absolutely amazing.
I use LPVO's mainly due to their etched reticles. If my battery died I want to be able to keep shooting. I've mostly gone away from red dots in favor of LPVO's and micro prism options because of this. A 6x magnifier is sure better than any 3x magnifier for my own situations and is a nice step toward red dot usefulness at distance. It still doesn't hit the marks I would want for a mid range "do everything" optic.
What about running a RMR RM06 with the 6x magnifier?
Delta Stryker 1-6 or bust!
how does sig tango6t sfp compare to vortex razor gen2e/ pa plx 1-8compact
Fantastic video. I’ve always leaned more towards LPVO’s because they just seem like a better all in one package…but recently when I had someone trying to break into my condo I was glad to have had my red dot mounted at the time. At no point during that experience was I thinking “Dang, I’d rather have an LPVO right now.”
So I guess that means that your choice should heavily depend on the purpose of the rifle.
Great info. I have a LPVO. But when I get my next short rifle it will have a red dot.
Intro was DOPE🔥🔥. Love the camera work!
I have two ARs one with an lpvo/offset dot (viperpst2 /509TX2) the other with a red dot/magnifier combo (PA SLX cyclops gen 2 prism/ 3x magnifier) … I chose the cyclops prism because of a slight astigmatism and the fact that if the battery dies I still have the etched reticle!
I had a red dot & Vortex Micro 3x magnifier but my eyes have an astigmatism and all the magnifier did was make the messy astigmatism dot bigger. It wasn’t any clearer so I went away from that combo to a 1-8x LPVO. It is definitely heavier but SOOO much clearer and I can have my stock fully extended which fits me better anyway. If I had an AR pistol I would still put the red dot on it and keep the magnifier as an option but it wouldn’t live on it like it did before. Great video, and keep up the good work!
Lpvo makes more sense on a 16in or longer rifle. Maybe 14.5 but not on a shorter rifle
I prefer the red dot/magnifier combo, but I like both.
Fantastic video as always!
I’m very intrigued by how close the times were for these two setups. Basically seems like if you’re mostly shooting up close go red dot/magnifier versus if you’re mostly shooting at range get the LPVO.
My personal choice is the 1-10x LPVO. Mine weighs 20oz with a 5oz mount (OG Badger Ordnance mount). Not light but not overly heavy. I’m excited about the March Compact 1-10x for many reasons but mainly because it only weighs 16oz. 20% weight savings is great!
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Love it. I have LPVO’s, dot/magnifier, and traditional scope setups and how i differentiate is by barrel length and rifle purpose. On my 11.5” I run a dot with qd micro 3x magnifier. On my 14.5” I use a 1-6 LPVO. On my 18” I run a 2.5-10 scope with offset micro dot. If I had to just grab one rifle for (insert fantasy here) it would be the 14.5” with 1-6 LPVO as i believe it offers the greatest versatility.
Love the “idea” of the LPVO… have a Viper PST… the glass is fantastic… but practically, especially as a non-professional shooter… I always seem to come back to the T2. Unity’s system allows you to drop the 3x straight down so it’s really out of the way and keeps the balance neutral. It’s been a game changer personally.
I'd love to see this done with one of those weird 1x primary arms prism optics and one of their 99 dollar 6x, it all seems too cheap and too good to be true.
Paul, look at low sun and burning buildings for background vs noon brightness( not suggesting setting fires). In my opinion fighting in bright/dark inside and outside of structures the only LPVO I would bet my life on is the Trijicon Green accupoint due to getting that reticle picked up no matter the light and shooter conditions. Great Work Cheers
I'm really curious how things would look with a 6x Vortex and a 1x Primary Arms Compact Prism scope.
I got an compm4s/3x mag on my 16inch AR and a 1-4 S&B short dot on my G3 . Different guns, different "missions" but I'm really getting interested in that 1-6 pst. Great video as always lads!
The quality just never siezes to amaze
Could you test the eotech xps3 + magnifier vs vortex razor 1-6 its the top choice for a lot off people 😎
Eye opening
Great video
I have a 1×10 LVPO and 3x/6x vortex Micro mag with EOtech EXPS. Love them both but I favor the dot/magnifier combo for CQC. Home defense. 😆
Yes Yes!!! prayers been heard new video. I'm running Sig LPVO 1×6 and offset red dot on my Aero. I have red dot & magnifier on my other AR.
1) the way Max goes into position on the barrier is so smooth!
2) that rear pov mount tho!
do you ever work wuth 2-10 or 2-12 scopes? love to see your take on that range. the PA 2.5-10, vortex 2-10, athlon 2-12, etc.
I decided on an lpvo 1-10. Works great for me in the wide open areas. The time it takes to switch between magnification is to minimal to notice.
Killer video !
LPVO for me due to astigmatism. I do use a red dot with an etch redical as well but cannot beat the views compare to LPVO. Awesome content!!!!
So I’m think for my 14.5 mid elw build I should probably go with the trijicon credo hx 1-6 sfp green dot & a scalarworks leap 1.93. But I really want to know how the new leupold patrol 6hd looks. Thanks for the awesome vids.
One of each! I love how it’s never the gear – it’s the practice !
Would like to know how to set the " FPS" camera up, super cool