Show the differences of zeroing your AR15 from 25 yards out to 300 yards.
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The rifle range in my area is only 100 yards. That's good enough for me! I'm not a sniper either. Shooting a human at 300 yards is going to be hard to justify to a grand-jury on how it was an imminent threat to your life.
The graphic is from gun websites it looks like. He runs gunchannels.com. A pro 2A website with many content creators like yourself……..and myself for that matter. As a member I’d love to invite ya to check it out. Have a good one man!
Former US Army Drill Sergeant here. I do like the video. Couple of points. Acog and EOtech zero process is different. However, if you are talking about irons, all are zeroed to 300 meters. This applies to the M16A2, M16A4, M4, and M4A1. Carry on.
Kevin Sykes asked the question that all need to know as this chart can be thrown out the window as it only works for the specific barrel length, twist rate, grain, and overall muzzle velocity that the shooter who created that chart is using. You will not get the results on that chart. It is why when using an ACOG or bullet drop compensator the user must match the muzzle velocity that the optic is set for otherwise the numbers don't match up. Check the specs on any major brand used in service today – Eotech, ACOG etc. — the company will state what the rifle setup was that got that specific bullet drop calculation. Go to a range that will carry the distance you will need and put a ton of rounds out to different distances using different zeros to know what YOUR rifle will do when using specific ammunition. At 'em boys Give 'er the gun!
I do 100 yards because civilian ranges are not in meters. Even though I was trained to do a 25 meter zero, I do 100 yards now. I will just aim a little higher on 300 yard shots; easy as that. Where I live, there isn't even a range within 80 miles that's over 100 yards so I am stuck.
I can't find these for 7.62×51/308…its always a specific hunting ammo and most don't even go through the drop…I know I can use a calc but just wondering why I can find 1k of these on 556 but none on 308
Well this said a lot but didn't really give me anything to work with. I hunt in open country where the wind blows. So I'm gonna zero at 250 yards and call it good. The 5.56 is pretty much useless past 300 yards. That's when it's time to bring out the AR-10. Thanks for the vid.
Thanks for your presentation. I've seen the title of the video you mention but have not watched it. You have mentioned sighting in at 100 or 200 yards, with a preference for 200 yards. That happens to be the NRA recommendation for typical hunting scenarios. Certainly zeroing for a particular range is dependent on primary target range of the shooter.
I'm no expert. Nor am I naive to believe that just because I served in the Marine Corps that I'm some kind of marksmanship "know it all". With that being said, during my time as an active duty Marine, my service rifle was zeroed at 300 yards. The term we used was BZO for "battle sight zero".
2 things to keep in mind. 1. The further out you zero, sights like red dots cover more of the target making it harder to pinpoint. 2. The further out the zero, accuracy declines due to wind and sight "float" (shooter), bad sight picture etc.
Yea, but how do you account for being limited to ranges with pathetic short distances and other ranges measured in feet instead of yards? I been trying to find BZO info to deal with these problems.
nothing that you say make any sense. its false information, because how does a 25 yard zero hit 4-5 inches high at 100yards but if you zero at 100yards and your 25yards shot be closer to 100yards. I call b.s. plus the military zeros their rifles at 25yards.
Does the position of the shot make a difference? That is, if the muzzle is not on the same plane as the target like prone shooting up or standing shooting down?
Thank you for your video. Its is very informative. I came back from range today. I was there with my Mossberg MMR zeroed at 25 meters. I was practicing 100 meters shots and I found it hard to place my shots at the bulls eye. Now you cleared this form me. It seems I need another trip to zero my rifle again at 100 meters. Well – thank you again for making it simple and clear!
My AR15 are match rifles for Across the Course where we shoot at 200, 300, 600 yards with heavy match bullets. I zero my rifle at 100 yards and then apply the known correction factors to the sight (clicks). 100 yards is very practical and its just a four .5 MOA clicks for a 200 yard zero, assuming the elevation drum is 1/2 MOA as they normally are in an AR15. My windage is a bit different at 1/4 MOA and do not move the front sight that I keep at mechanical zero. For my type of shooting, messing around with the front sight is very impractical so all adjustments are done with the rear sight. This is different from hunting or target shooting with lighter and short AR carbines not designed for National Match Course and with different sights like the MABUS rear sights which have no elevation adjustment . Never the less, I agree with you that 100 yards or meters is the most versatile zero for most distances (if I am not shooting for points) that include informal target shooting, short range competition, hunting or self defense. When I was in the US ARMY basic training back in 1976, we used the 25 meter zero which allowed that 55gr bullet to hit on half silhouettes at 350 meters (max distance in the rifle qualification course).
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100 yards is a zero for me. Anyway from 0 yards to 200 yards the greatest drop or rise is 2 and 1/2 in.
A 50 yard zero should be the same as a 200 yard zero. Why don't yours look identical? Maybe time to double check your graphic
The rifle range in my area is only 100 yards. That's good enough for me! I'm not a sniper either. Shooting a human at 300 yards is going to be hard to justify to a grand-jury on how it was an imminent threat to your life.
What is your vision?? 100yd zero open wow come back in 20 years and tell me how that works for ya
The graphic is from gun websites it looks like. He runs gunchannels.com. A pro 2A website with many content creators like yourself……..and myself for that matter. As a member I’d love to invite ya to check it out. Have a good one man!
What about the 36 yard zero
It also depends on the barrel length and ammo your using too.
look's pretty consistent me I just shoo 25 to 200
Former US Army Drill Sergeant here. I do like the video. Couple of points. Acog and EOtech zero process is different. However, if you are talking about irons, all are zeroed to 300 meters. This applies to the M16A2, M16A4, M4, and M4A1. Carry on.
Kevin Sykes asked the question that all need to know as this chart can be thrown out the window as it only works for the specific barrel length, twist rate, grain, and overall muzzle velocity that the shooter who created that chart is using. You will not get the results on that chart. It is why when using an ACOG or bullet drop compensator the user must match the muzzle velocity that the optic is set for otherwise the numbers don't match up. Check the specs on any major brand used in service today – Eotech, ACOG etc. — the company will state what the rifle setup was that got that specific bullet drop calculation. Go to a range that will carry the distance you will need and put a ton of rounds out to different distances using different zeros to know what YOUR rifle will do when using specific ammunition.
At 'em boys Give 'er the gun!
I do 100 yards because civilian ranges are not in meters. Even though I was trained to do a 25 meter zero, I do 100 yards now. I will just aim a little higher on 300 yard shots; easy as that. Where I live, there isn't even a range within 80 miles that's over 100 yards so I am stuck.
I can't find these for 7.62×51/308…its always a specific hunting ammo and most don't even go through the drop…I know I can use a calc but just wondering why I can find 1k of these on 556 but none on 308
36 yd zero all the way
You can't accurately depict ballistics without factoring in twist rate.
50/200 is the same P.O.A….
Ms. Information… That bitch!
Well this said a lot but didn't really give me anything to work with. I hunt in open country where the wind blows. So I'm gonna zero at 250 yards and call it good. The 5.56 is pretty much useless past 300 yards. That's when it's time to bring out the AR-10. Thanks for the vid.
Thanks for your presentation. I've seen the title of the video you mention but have not watched it. You have mentioned sighting in at 100 or 200 yards, with a preference for 200 yards. That happens to be the NRA recommendation for typical hunting scenarios. Certainly zeroing for a particular range is dependent on primary target range of the shooter.
200yd zero all day long
I'm no expert. Nor am I naive to believe that just because I served in the Marine Corps that I'm some kind of marksmanship "know it all". With that being said, during my time as an active duty Marine, my service rifle was zeroed at 300 yards. The term we used was BZO for "battle sight zero".
Military you say? I remember zeroing at 300 meters.
that chart by gunwebsites is so useful i just watched his video explaining making that chart. https://youtu.be/Klvve0ZG_jo
2 things to keep in mind.
1. The further out you zero, sights like red dots cover more of the target making it harder to pinpoint.
2. The further out the zero, accuracy declines due to wind and sight "float" (shooter), bad sight picture etc.
Yea, but how do you account for being limited to ranges with pathetic short distances and other ranges measured in feet instead of yards? I been trying to find BZO info to deal with these problems.
Also the military uses meters.
nothing that you say make any sense. its false information, because how does a 25 yard zero hit 4-5 inches high at 100yards but if you zero at 100yards and your 25yards shot be closer to 100yards. I call b.s. plus the military zeros their rifles at 25yards.
Does the position of the shot make a difference? That is, if the muzzle is not on the same plane as the target like prone shooting up or standing shooting down?
Thank you for your video. Its is very informative. I came back from range today. I was there with my Mossberg MMR zeroed at 25 meters. I was practicing 100 meters shots and I found it hard to place my shots at the bulls eye. Now you cleared this form me. It seems I need another trip to zero my rifle again at 100 meters. Well – thank you again for making it simple and clear!
Had to like just because of the outro
I'm watching a video where the guy uses insense as a pointer. Just thought i would "point" that out
My AR15 are match rifles for Across the Course where we shoot at 200, 300, 600 yards with heavy match bullets. I zero my rifle at 100 yards and then apply the known correction factors to the sight (clicks). 100 yards is very practical and its just a four .5 MOA clicks for a 200 yard zero, assuming the elevation drum is 1/2 MOA as they normally are in an AR15. My windage is a bit different at 1/4 MOA and do not move the front sight that I keep at mechanical zero. For my type of shooting, messing around with the front sight is very impractical so all adjustments are done with the rear sight. This is different from hunting or target shooting with lighter and short AR carbines not designed for National Match Course and with different sights like the MABUS rear sights which have no elevation adjustment . Never the less, I agree with you that 100 yards or meters is the most versatile zero for most distances (if I am not shooting for points) that include informal target shooting, short range competition, hunting or self defense. When I was in the US ARMY basic training back in 1976, we used the 25 meter zero which allowed that 55gr bullet to hit on half silhouettes at 350 meters (max distance in the rifle qualification course).
Not that I have one or anything, your on the right track. When all else fails your irons all you have. He who knows the basics lives longer.
Shoot someone in the JUNK he just wishes it was a kill shot instead.