Got a Scout Rifle? Scope selection and placement may be trickier than you think.
Full Scout AR Playlist:
Equipment List:
1. Nikon Force XR 2.5-8x28mm Handgun Scope:
2. (alt) Nikon Force XR 2x20mm Pistol Scope:
3. Weaver SPR Mount (Thumb Nut, 1″):
4. (alt) Warne XSKEL QD Mount
5. Weaver Torque Wrench:
If you are considering an extended eye relief scope (EER) for your Scout Rifle, here is my best advice: Buy a fixed-power model like the 2X Force XR. Here’s the reason why:
Turns out a variable power handgun scope also has a variable eye relief. On this 2.5-8x Force XR, for example, the difference is a whopping 3.125″. That’s fine for a hunter’s handgun, where it’s easy to move your head or arms to get the perfect eye relief. Not so on a rifle. This is a phenomenon I noticed when I had my old Simmons Gold Medal 1.5-4X pistol scope mounted on the Savage 110 Scout rifle, but with its small zoom ratio it wasn’t a big deal. The Force XR has a much bigger zoom ratio, so the effect is more pronounced.
I’ll be producing a full review of the Force XR handgun scope later on, so watch for that. It’s a wonderful pistol scope: lightweight, clear, and precise.
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Kyle Broderick, The Social Regressive
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A 10 rounds mag would fit better for a scout rifle i think.
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Eye relief should always be set at the highest magnification. I think the problem is the pistol scope eye relief. You need a dedicated scout scope, compare the two Burris offerings and the eye relief is 9.2-10 for scout and 10-21 for pistol.
The POI shift can be pretty severe when you press into a bipod or barricade. Even with a only 2 slot overlap of the scope mount over the receiver to the rail, I could induce a 4 or 5 inch POI shift at 100yds.
This is also a problem I found with the handguard design for the kel-tec RDB as well even though that acts on the barrel instead of the optic. A quick tip is to scoot the bipod as far back as possible to minimize the torque exerted on the handguard and imparted on the aiming device or barrel. You lose stability but groups really improve in the RDB. I'd imagine the torque concept would hold true for the handguard to scope relationship if you have to mount an optic that far forward on the handguard.
I think you put out some great content but please just quit while your ahead. This is asinine!!
I would call 450 yards mid range. Lol in my opinion for what it is worth, is short range rifle, 0-300 yards. Mid range 300-600, and 600-1000 is long range.
Always enjoy your videos, but this whole "scout" thing seems a bit silly, just moving a pistol scope forward on an AR15. Whats the point?
Get a 1-4 power
I just don’t see how the scope will hold true zero mounted to the handguard that way. I know you say a good rail doesn’t flex much but it will even in the slightest and cause big impact shift downrange, especially when using the forend rested on a barricade or anything which will cause the scope to “move”. Cool idea though
Vortex has a nice scout scope. Love mine