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Tests this at mid day and not at last light because he knows the NF would shine over the Arken. Youre going to have to do better to shill for them. And who pays full MSRP for a scope? SMH
I don't have an Arken I opted for a DNT "The One" the only reason I went with the DNT scope is because there was no way to speak with anyone at Arken. Maybe I am just a little bit picky but I had a couple of questions, nothing huge or technical just something that I wanted clarity on pr-purchase. They never returned any of the 3 voicemails or any of the emails I sent. That was enough for me to go with the DNT they answered the phone got me with someone and then offered me a 35% discount. To my surprise the scopes are made in the same factory! So if you are looking for great customer service give DNT a shot!
Yup… this solves it! Bright day, through a phone camera! Yup, scientific! They have nice glass.. when you don't have to deal with things like parallax, mirage, lighting condition changes… perfect for fair weather shooting! And if that is all you do, it's a good value. As soon as you start shooting in various conditions at various times of day… rainy or snowy days… the difference becomes very pronounced.
Low light is where the top tier scopes will shine. How well does the lower costing Arken track? I've yet to see a low end scope that has the repeatability when it comes to tracking. The glass might be close but i'm sure the internals are far from close.
That’s a pretty vast difference in clarity being the Nightforce looked pretty clear and the Arken was not, I imagine with a proper camera the difference is even greater. I’ve used the 4-16 Arken and 4-16 atacr and the difference was massive. Now, was it 8x the price massive? No, but that’s what you have to pay. Every industry is like that. You can build a custom race car for 100k and it’ll run head to head with a 1-2 million dollar super car. It probably won’t win, but it’ll be pretty close. The closer you get to perfection, the more expensive it is to improve upon it, and the less noticable those improvements get. If you can afford the Nightforce it is absolutely the superior optic with 0 question in my mind, but if you can’t afford it the Arken will get you hits on target.
The clarity loss doesn’t matter in PRS, but in hunting situations clarity can mean the difference between noticing a bedded bull elk in some dead grass of similar color, and not noticing him at all.
You forget the critical eye relief! Arken doesn’t hold a candle to nightforce. Sightron III has better clarity than both. But isn’t as tough as Nightforce!
apples and olives= paying 10x as much to shave .2 off a 1/4mile vs 10x as much to shave .02 off an MOA. Niche comforts for special applications. Some dudes are just trying to get into the sports>400$ +/- sounds fair for what it offers to someone who likely will not outshoot that glass for a long time.
The price is ridiculous. I understand wanting good equipment, but the levels of diminishing returns is so high with this stuff. Theres no way i should be able to buy a used economy car for the price of a 1 inch tube with some lenses. And to make it seem like if you don't spend that you're not prepared. Lenses are already so much better than people used only 15 years ago. And cheaper to produce. Think what they must have looked like in the days of Carlos Hathcock.
90% of scopes have perfectly functional clarity in any light guys are going to shoot in…how reliable is the tracking and how well built is it. $400 scope is probably $250 landed price….most likely not built as well, doesn't dial as well, and is more prone to failure….
As an Arken owner, 600 yard F class is a problem. You should watch Paramont Tactical. Now Arken is a good value, but it isn't a NF! Only a schill will tell you that.
Looks good. I mean the reality is for 99% of people it’s just as good and cheaper. I would like to see it at dusk through, which in my experience is where better glass really starts to shine.
Possibly just as good all the way around. But there’s almost always a catch.
Bull Crap, dial both scopes 25 clicks up, and 10 clicks left, and see if it hits where it's suppose to, then dial it back and see if it's back to you're zero. THAT is what you pay for with the nightforce!!!!
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Tests this at mid day and not at last light because he knows the NF would shine over the Arken. Youre going to have to do better to shill for them.
And who pays full MSRP for a scope? SMH
Cool now show them both 15 min before dark
It’s all fun and games until you drop it
Love the arken scope I have a couple of them
Damn dude, when I got my MK IV the ATACR I looked at was only $300 more. You got robbed. 😂
I don't have an Arken I opted for a DNT "The One" the only reason I went with the DNT scope is because there was no way to speak with anyone at Arken. Maybe I am just a little bit picky but I had a couple of questions, nothing huge or technical just something that I wanted clarity on pr-purchase. They never returned any of the 3 voicemails or any of the emails I sent. That was enough for me to go with the DNT they answered the phone got me with someone and then offered me a 35% discount. To my surprise the scopes are made in the same factory! So if you are looking for great customer service give DNT a shot!
If you paid that much for the ATACR you got ripped off lol
Way more mirage in the Arken ..
Only an idiot would spend $4000 on a scope, especially when one 10 times cheaper does the same exact job
Great show and thanks for the info 👍👍👍
Yup… this solves it! Bright day, through a phone camera! Yup, scientific! They have nice glass.. when you don't have to deal with things like parallax, mirage, lighting condition changes… perfect for fair weather shooting! And if that is all you do, it's a good value. As soon as you start shooting in various conditions at various times of day… rainy or snowy days… the difference becomes very pronounced.
Low light is where the top tier scopes will shine. How well does the lower costing Arken track? I've yet to see a low end scope that has the repeatability when it comes to tracking. The glass might be close but i'm sure the internals are far from close.
That’s a pretty vast difference in clarity being the Nightforce looked pretty clear and the Arken was not, I imagine with a proper camera the difference is even greater. I’ve used the 4-16 Arken and 4-16 atacr and the difference was massive. Now, was it 8x the price massive? No, but that’s what you have to pay. Every industry is like that. You can build a custom race car for 100k and it’ll run head to head with a 1-2 million dollar super car. It probably won’t win, but it’ll be pretty close. The closer you get to perfection, the more expensive it is to improve upon it, and the less noticable those improvements get. If you can afford the Nightforce it is absolutely the superior optic with 0 question in my mind, but if you can’t afford it the Arken will get you hits on target.
The clarity loss doesn’t matter in PRS, but in hunting situations clarity can mean the difference between noticing a bedded bull elk in some dead grass of similar color, and not noticing him at all.
You forget the critical eye relief! Arken doesn’t hold a candle to nightforce. Sightron III has better clarity than both. But isn’t as tough as Nightforce!
It’s all about the glass
Arkin uses Japanese glass in several of there scopes. EP5 and the SH4J are a couple that do.
apples and olives= paying 10x as much to shave .2 off a 1/4mile vs 10x as much to shave .02 off an MOA. Niche comforts for special applications. Some dudes are just trying to get into the sports>400$ +/- sounds fair for what it offers to someone who likely will not outshoot that glass for a long time.
Arken isn't as clear morning and night. Although I think arken is a nice scope.
It only beats NF in price….
But not value…
Don't get those confused
Don't drop it…
Or check the tracking….
In fact leave the arken in the box….
I have one and its pretty damn good
I own an Arken ep5 and vs my Leupold mark5 I would say in my opinion Leupold is way more clear. But you pay for what you get
The price is ridiculous. I understand wanting good equipment, but the levels of diminishing returns is so high with this stuff. Theres no way i should be able to buy a used economy car for the price of a 1 inch tube with some lenses. And to make it seem like if you don't spend that you're not prepared. Lenses are already so much better than people used only 15 years ago. And cheaper to produce. Think what they must have looked like in the days of Carlos Hathcock.
You’re full of shyt dude ! Show the durability test before you start lying to your viewers
90% of scopes have perfectly functional clarity in any light guys are going to shoot in…how reliable is the tracking and how well built is it. $400 scope is probably $250 landed price….most likely not built as well, doesn't dial as well, and is more prone to failure….
But yeah lets compare them by "clarity"
As an Arken owner, 600 yard F class is a problem. You should watch Paramont Tactical. Now Arken is a good value, but it isn't a NF! Only a schill will tell you that.
500 yards…come on. Now go to a mile. And you will see why you pay $4000
Looks good. I mean the reality is for 99% of people it’s just as good and cheaper. I would like to see it at dusk through, which in my experience is where better glass really starts to shine.
Possibly just as good all the way around. But there’s almost always a catch.
Bull Crap, dial both scopes 25 clicks up, and 10 clicks left, and see if it hits where it's suppose to, then dial it back and see if it's back to you're zero. THAT is what you pay for with the nightforce!!!!
4k warranty policy i guess.